>> i don't know most cities of that size actually the crime rate is lower than the national average. compare a city like that to detroit it is always going to be per capita. i don't think kennesaw probably has any more of a crime rate than frankfort, kentucky, for example and they don't have a similar law. has to do with the volume of people pushed together and like minded ney i tour of the people. i don't think you will see a lot of criss-crossing diversity that causes that conflict readily. >> judge jeanine: the bottom line is they are saying that we don't have as much crime where you look at chicago, no one is allowed to have a gun and it is like the murder capital of the country. and then kennesaw where everybody has a gun and there is nothing like that. >> the problem in chicago is actually because of places in that part of the country where you can actually purchase guns either from a private buyer or a gun show without any kind of background check. >> judge jeanine: you can make that argument in any town in the nation. >> again, it embarrassing to participate in the debate bei